Amethyst Payne v State of Nevada ex rel Nevada Department of Employment Training and Rehabilitation, Case No. CV20-0075 (filed Second Judicial District Court of the State of Nevada in and for the County of Washoe, May 13, 2020)

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September 28, 2021 Case Update:

On September 13, 2021, the Supreme Court of Nevada denied Plaintiffs’ petition for writ of mandamus against DETR, vacated part of the Second Judicial District Court’s Order requiring DETR to continue to pay the “start/stop” claimants, and remanded the case back to the Second Judicial District for any potential further proceedings.  The Supreme Court of Nevada did not hear oral argument but decided the case on the briefings.  The Court’s Order can be accessed here.

A status hearing has been tentatively scheduled for November 4, 2021, at 11:00 a.m., with the Honorable Judge Breslow, Second Judicial District Court.

Next Steps

Thierman Buck, LLP is reviewing any potential additional steps that can be taken to help the many claimants who continue to struggle with DETR’s CARES Act claims’ processes.

Thierman Buck, LLP is not taking individual cases against DETR in any capacity.

If you have not been paid, have had start stops, have been denied for any reason, have an overpayment notification, or any other determination you do not agree with, you must appeal that decision directly through DETR.  The typical course for the UI/PUA appeal process is:

1. Appeal through DETR portal;

2. If denied, appeal to the Board of Review through the DETR portal;

3. If denied, the Petition for Judicial Review, regardless of your appeal time, has passed.

If your appeal has been denied, you must file your own writ of mandamus in your local district court.

What is a Writ of Mandamus?

In a nutshell, it is an order from a court ordering the government official to properly fulfill their official duties or correct an abuse of discretion.  Nevada Legal Services (“NLS”) has created a fillable Writ of Mandamus for claimants to fill out and instructions on how to file it with the appropriate court.  You can access this form at: 

This link includes directions on how to file in district court in the county in which you reside.  Additionally, a general FAQ section provides answers to questions you may have.

Neither Nevada Legal Services nor Thierman Buck, LLP have the resources or the capacity to file writs for you, so we strongly encourage you to use the template provided by NLS.

Please Remember

Thierman Buck cannot represent you on individual DETR appeals. It is our understanding that it can take six months or more for an appeal.

Thierman Buck is unaware of any other Nevada attorneys, other than legal aid, who are taking unemployment benefit cases and thus cannot refer you to any other attorney.

Thierman Buck cannot provide advice on cases outside of Nevada.

More Information

Updates to the DETR case and through the “In The News” section are being made as new information becomes available.  Links to all of the pleadings, motions, and Court orders can also be accessed at, including all pleadings and papers filed in the case at “ATTACHED FILES.”


28 de septiembre de 2021 – Actualización de DETR

El 13 de septiembre de 2021, la Corte Suprema de Nevada negó la petición de los demandantes de una orden de mandamus contra DETR, anuló parte de la Orden del Tribunal del Segundo Distrito Judicial que requiere que DETR continúe pagando a los demandantes de “inicio / parada” y devolvió el caso al Segundo Distrito Judicial para cualquier posible procedimiento adicional.  La Corte Suprema de Nevada no escuchó los argumentos orales, pero decidió argumentar en los informes.  Se puede acceder a la Orden de la Corte aquí aquí.

Se ha programado tentativamente una audienciade estado para el 4 de noviembre de 2021 a las 11:00 a.m., con el Honorable Juez Breslow, Tribunal del Segundo Distrito Judicial.

Próximos Pasos

Thierman Buck, LLP está revisando cualquier posible paso adicional que se pueda tomar para ayudar a los muchos reclamantes que continúan luchando con los procesos de reclamos de la Ley CARES de DETR.

Thierman Buck, LLP no está tomando casos individuales contra DETR en ninguna

capacidad.  Si no se le ha pagado, ha tenido paradas de inicio, se le ha denegado por cualquier motivo, tiene una notificación de pago en exceso o cualquier otra determinación con la que no esté de acuerdo, debe apelar esa decisión directamente a través de DETR.  El curso típico para el proceso de apelación de UI/PUA es:

1. Apelar a través del portal DETR;

2. Si se deniega, apelar a la Junta de Revisión a través del portal DETR;

3. Si se deniega, la Petición de Revisión Judicial, independientemente, si su tiempo de apelación, ha pasado.

Si su apelación ha sido denegada, debe presentar su propia orden de mandamus en su tribunal de distrito local.

¿Qué es una Orden de Mandamus?

En pocas palabras, es una orden de un tribunal que ordena al funcionario del gobierno que cumpla adecuadamente con sus deberes oficiales o corrija un abuso de discreción.  Nevada Legal Services (“NLS”) ha creado una Orden de Mandamus rellenable para que los reclamantes la completen e instrucciones sobre cómo presentarla ante el tribunal correspondiente.  Puede acceder a este formulario en:

Este enlace incluye instrucciones sobre cómo presentar una solicitud en el tribunal de distrito del condado en el que reside.  Además, hay una sección general de preguntas frecuentes que proporciona respuestas a las preguntas que pueda tener.

Ni Nevada Legal Services tampoco Thierman Buck, LLP tienen los recursos o la capacidad de presentar escritos por usted, por lo que le recomendamos encarecidamente que utilice el templet proporcionado por NLS.

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Thierman Buck no puede representarlo en apelaciones individuales de DETR. Tnos entendido que una apelación puede tardar seis meses o más.

Thierman Buck no tiene conocimiento de ningún otro abogado de Nevada, aparte de la asistencia legal, que esté tomando casos de beneficios de desempleo y, por lo tanto, no puede referirlo a ningún otro abogado.

Thierman Buck no puede brindar asesoramiento sobre casos fuera de Nevada.

Información sobre el m ore

La información más actualizada sobre esta demanda, así como algunos recursos adicionales, se pueden encontrar en nuestro sitio web en:

Se están realizando actualizaciones al caso DETR y a través de la sección “En las noticias” a medida que se dispone de nueva información.  También se puede acceder a los enlaces a todos los alegatos, mociones y órdenes judiciales en, incluidos todos los alegatos y documentos presentados en el caso en “ARCHIVOS ADJUNTOS”.

Case Update April 1, 2021

This update contains information on three specific issues:

  2. Individual Appeals;
  3. Supreme Court of Nevada case not yet scheduled for oral argument/hearing. Madness

We are getting many emails about the issues related to including but not limited to the waiver of liability, arbitration requirements, holding your information in perpetuity, and the fact that many people do not have access to the electronics required to complete the verification process. We do not have immediate plans to file another lawsuit based on DETR’s use of or the conditions places on claimants.

We encourage you to be your own best advocate and reach out to your local media and especially your State Representatives about and ongoing DETR issues specifically. The Nevada Legislature is in session and there are a few bills working their way through the legislative process specific to DETR. Read any bills pending that affect your rights. Make your voices heard. You can find your Legislator’s contact information at:

We are aware that people are spending excruciating amounts of time and effort to speak to verification personnel but, Thierman Buck, LLP cannot advise you on what actions you should take. If you want your benefits you must try to comply with conditions and/or speak to Write down whom you speak with, when, and what was said. Follow up with an email – create a paper trail for further potential action or appeal.

There is a wealth of information on the many Facebook PUA/Claimant groups, as well as DETR’s own Web portal that we encourage you to review.

Thierman Buck Is Not Representing People With Individual Appeals

Nevada Legal Services (“NLS”) has created fillable forms to file your own Writ of Mandamus (order from a court requiring a government agency to act according to the law). Go to:

NLS has instructions and forms for both Clark and Washoe County as well as general FAQ re eligibility of unemployment benefits during the COVID-19 pandemic.

If your appeal has initially been denied, file an appeal to the Board of Appeals, and if denied there file a Writ with the district court in the county in which you live. Use the NLS forms contained in the link above.

If your appeal has been denied as too late, file a Writ with the district court in the county in which you live. Use the NLS forms contained in the link above.

Supreme Court of Nevada Appeal – Payne v. DETR

As of April 1, 2021, the Supreme Court of Nevada has not set oral argument or a hearing date for the appeal of the Second Judicial District Court case.

You must be your own best advocate. Thierman Buck is unaware of any other Nevada attorneys who are taking unemployment benefit cases and thus cannot refer you to any other attorney.

And finally, Thierman Buck is not taking any cases outside of Nevada. However, if you contact an attorney who would like to speak with us about the Payne v. DETR case, the pleadings filed, and legal theories we have presented, we are happy to share information.

Attached Files:

Case Updates

Helpful Resources

Nevada Legal Services has created two YouTube videos regarding the services they offer as well as some tips for UI and PUA claimants. They may be able to help you with appeals and individual cases.

PUA, January 21, 2021 update
UI/PUA, December 22, 2020 update

We want to provide some resources to turn to in these difficult times. If you are feeling there is no where to turn to and/or you feel you cannot keep yourself safe please reach out to:

Crisis Support Services of Nevada

Crisis Support Services of Nevada’s mission is to provide 24/7, free, confidential, and caring support to people in crisis.

Nevada 211 (resource directory)

2-1-1 services include places to find emergency food, housing and emergency shelter locations, children’s services, support for seniors, older persons, and people with disabilities, and mental health and counseling services, among many others.

Food Pantries

Southern Nevada

Emergency Food Distribution
(walk up or drive thru)

Northern Nevada

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